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MACABRE : Interview with Corporate Death by Lorena
Lorena TheAdversary: The infamous, Corporate Death! It’s been a long 8 years since your last release, Murder Metal, so what has Macabre been doing during this pause?
Corporate Death: Well, we never really took a break, we’ve done tours, shows etc…we haven’t really taken a vacation from anything. We did a number of things and then I started reading about the killers big time, like intensively, lots of books and I come to Las Palmas with my notebook, my pens and my books in hand and I would just write. So I started writing lyrics for several years and I came up with so many songs that I’m like, I can’t do this all in one album, there’s no way. I had to do a two part album..The Grim Scary Tales, there will be a part two coming out, hopefully next year…that’s the plan, we’ll try to record it this year. It ends at about World War I so I’ll take off from then into modern times in the second album. It’ll be all the more modern killers, instead of the historical ones.
Lorena TheAdversary: So I guess we can expect a part two to the Green River Killer track that you did in the Gloom release, now that we know who he is…and we know he’s Gary Ridgeway, can we expect a part two to that track?
Corporate Death: Yeah, you read my mind, I already wrote it.
Lorena TheAdversary: I also follow serial killers and mass murderers so I want to thank you for not focusing on Charles Mason bull, which I personally don’t think he’s anything to write about but you’ve covered everyone from Peter Kurten, Richard Speck…
Corporate Death: I did Manson too! It was never released..I did it in, uh, Murder Metal..I did the Addams Family theme, from the TV show, do you know it?
Lorena TheAdversary: yes, yes
Corporate Death: They’re creepy and they’re cooky…I did the Manson Family to sound just like the TV show, it was a short song, maybe about like 30 seconds to 40 seconds long but we didn’t put it out because Disney owns it and we were just afraid of getting sued. So I did do a Manson song..it was called the Manson Family, it wasn’t just about Charles Manson.
Lorena TheAdversary: I’ve listened, before to, like, the Albert Fish tracks, he’s one of my favorites...
Corporate Death: Oh yeah?
Lorena TheAdversary: Oh yeah, definitely. I like to read about the ones that are more “innovative” for lack of a better word, when it comes to their murder sprees or whatever, but I have to say that Vlad the Impaler is my favorite mass murderer so I was thrilled to see him on the cover! Do you have a US tour planned in the near future? Or what are your plans as far as tours go?
Corporate Death: Yeah, it’s a pretty short US tour though, it’s coming up in July with Exhumed, I don’t know how many shows it is, but it’ll be in July. Some shows will be in Canada in August so that’s part of the touring plus we have a Europe tour in April and part of May and we just got off a tour with Napalm Death and Immolation and Waking the Cadaver so then we’ll do a six week tour of Europe in November and December and in that second tour we’ll be headlining so we’ll do a lot of the new album on the next tour. I don’t think there’s gonna be a lot of the US toured, it’s gonna be more of the West coast but we’ll be hitting the US all over the place, it’s just whatever comes our way as far as offers, good bands to play with or whatever. Then we have to look at those things. Sometimes we go out on the weekends and do shows here and there in the US but we haven’t really done a whole bunch of US tours, like major ones like Cannibal Corpse. We’ve done a few with them. That’s when you go all around the states and do like 30 shows. I don’t know of any coming anytime soon but we like to go wherever we can, you know?
Lorena TheAdversary: So if you could choose the ideal tour for Macabre, headlining, what three bands would you choose to tour with?
Corporate Death: you see, as far as a support act…we’ve turned a lot of them down because it’s not the right offer, it wouldn’t be the right thing for us or whatever. But I don’t know, you know, that’s a tough one. It’s always gonna change and I like variety in music so I would like to tour with bands that are different than the extreme styles that are still heavy but not so much death metal. We try to mix. Even when we do shows here in our area we try to get funk or grind bands to mix it up where it’s not all death metal the whole night. Variety is cool to me, I mean I like bands like, uhm..you’ve probably never heard of them but, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum?
Lorena TheAdversary: No, I’ve never heard of them...
Corporate Death: Look them up on the internet sometime, they’re great, uhm, Estratosphere, is more classical metal, but it’s heavy, you know? And more styles like that but you know, to open a tour with any package that’s gonna be a good time and where we can draw some people there.
Lorena TheAdversary: Have you ever considered a music video? To maybe expose to those who have not heard Macabre or perhaps open to a new audience?
Corporate Death: Yeah, we never did a music video. We did Live in Holland with Macabre” and I think that turned out pretty well, but that wasn’t an actual video, it was more like a live show. But yeah, I was thinking of something like that. I dunno if you’re familiar with the song on the new album, the song called “Mary Ann”.
Lorena TheAdversary: Yes, yes
Corporate Death: It’s kind of a ballad, kinda like Uriah Heap more like 70’s bands, I wanna do more like that style. So I was thinking about doing a music video to that. We’ll just have like a lady, poisoning her family back in the 1800’s, making poisoned tea and things like that. Then have her dressed in her Victorian garb and clothing, something goofy. I think something like that, I don’t think people would see and think this is too heavy for me. I don’t want them to think everything is gonna sound like Mary Ann but we do variety. If they don’t wanna listen to death all the time, we don’t do it all the time. A lot of the time we do variety, and variety is my thing. I’m a karaoke freak...
Lorena TheAdversary: Oh, are you?!
Corporate Death: Oh yeah, I love Karaoke. I can do like 40 Beatle’s songs, Johnny Cash, Jethro Tull, whatever. I do a lot of oldie bands..i like to see if I can even sing like these guys. If I can’t do it, I just pick a different song but there’s probably like 100 songs that I can do on karaoke. I love doing it, I’m just a mic hog and I’ll get up there and people just start getting tired of me, but I love to sing. I get tired of doing the same vocal style all the time and the same musical style to I like to mix it up. When I was younger I always sang and I always loved to sing. I taught myself to sing, pretty much, but I studied a little bit of opera and musical styles, classical music, music theory and I like to mix it up, I like to do different styles. It gets boring to me if I’m doing the same style all the time and the same vocals. I think it’s a bit more interesting to the people that are watching it and listening. It takes you through different modes and tempos. I think people appreciate it too, I mean, not everybody. Some people think “this is too wimpy for me, I want heavy all the time” and that’s fine, but that’s not what we do. I don’t think we do heavy all the time, we throw it in there but I think people appreciate the variety.
Lorena TheAdversary: I personally do like the variety and you definitely deliver on that end. You can do the death, the grind and extreme metal and you mix it all up. You can’t really be labeled ONE type of metal genre and whoever has tried to label you has always thrown in about three styles of metal.
Corporate Death: That’s what I’m trying for, that’s what I’m trying for. On Murder Metal I did different types of vocals, that was some years back, so I said I’m gonna take it to the next level and do some cleaner vocals. The next album “Grim Scary Tales pt. 2” I’m gonna take it to the limit again and go beyond what I did in pt. 1 and do even more crazy harmonies and different vocals and just really take it to the limit with variety.
Lorena TheAdversary: So in part two, do you think we can get a Carl Eugene Watts in there or an Angel Resendez, The Railroad Killer just for us Texans?
Corporate Death: Oh, yeah, I already did one about him (Angel Resendez). I have like 30 songs that I have planned but I’m gonna have to cut it down to a smaller number. I probably have more than 30 but it’s gonna go through, just..anyone you can think of pretty much. Even old killer we already play about. I will do a new Albert Fish song, a new Ted Bundy song, a new John Wayne Gacy song and it’s just gonna be about different incidents and stuff. Their lives or different things. I’d like to do, in the future, after this pt. two Grim Scary Tales…a whole album on Albert Fish.
Lorena TheAdversary: Oh, yeah, he’s one of my favorites!
Corporate Death: It’ll be half acoustic and half electric, back and forth. It’ll just be a crazy album. A musical on Albert Fish, like the Dahmer album but even way more versatile in the vocals. It’s got like all these children songs in there about Albert Fish eating little kids. So it’s ironic and real goofy. The album will be called Fish Tales and it will probably be like a two part CD and we’ll put it out all at once. We have so many songs for it already. I’ve been writing the fish songs for about 15 years already. So I have a bunch of songs already written, same with the Grim Scary Tales 2 which I don’t think is gonna be a problem recording this year and releasing next year. It’s really “kick Macabre’s butt” with all this time off without recording and really give the fans something.
Lorena TheAdversary: I’m definitely excited. Everything you’ve covered, I’ve read about since I was about 10 years old. I’ve been reading about the serial killers and mass murderers so it’s really nice to see. You’re doing something completely different and in my opinion, untapped because there is so much material there that no one has tapped into. Some have gone in and out and covered what’s in the news now or serial killers that were on the news in the 80’s and 90’s. Have you ever met a serial killer or received mail from anyone?
Corporate Death: I met John Wayne Gacy. I corresponded in the mail with him. My friend went there, he collects killer art and sells it on his website and he went and met Gacy and took photos with him so I gave Gacy my number and was corresponding in the mail with him. He started calling me, once a week, no the phone and then I went to meet him. I went to death row three times and sat in a room for 5 hours with one of the most prolific serial killers, especially from my area. I’m like a half hour drive from where he lived. You’re in a room for 5 hours with this guy and you kinda get to pick his brain about some stuff. This is some years back though and he’s gone now, they executed him. Yeah and I went to Dahmer’s trial, I didn’t actually get to meet Dahmer, but Gacy, I was talking to on the phone for once a week. I have all these letters, that was definitely an experience. It’s something I would do again, but I don’t really have time to correspond with all these killers and go meet guys in different states and things like that. Just that one experience with meeting that guy who had like 28 bodies under his house. I have this new song on Grim Scary Tales pt. 2 called “There’s a barbecue at John Gacy’s house”. It’s about his annual BBQ where he would invite all his neighbors and he would cook on a big BBQ pit and he had 28 bodies in his house, while he’s feeding all these people. They say he actually had 2 bodies in the cement underneath where he had the BBQ where he was cooking. I can probably do a whole album on Gacy.
Lorena TheAdversary: On that note, if you could choose to meet any serial killer or mass murderer, from any point in time, which one would you choose and why?
Corporate Death: Wow…I don’t know, probably Albert Fish. He was a demented, frail old man. I even thought about doing a movie on Albert Fish and actually playing the part of Albert Fish. I’m a little bit tall for that, I’m 6 ft tall and he was a frail old man. I’d have to squat down and get prosthetic's on my face to make me look like an old man and do like an old black and white movie on Albert Fish. I was thinking about calling it “The Gray Man” and do like an Alfred Hitchcock movie on Albert Fish. There’s not gonna be a whole lot of gore in the movie, it’ll be more like thinking. You’ll see stuff like him walking up to the little girl, about to strangle her and you would see his upper half is naked then it cuts to him eating his stew or something. It’s not gonna show him actually stabbing kids or anything like that. It’s more of a mind thing, more like an Alfred Hitchcock, black and white thing. I’d like do that in the future, I mean, we’ll see. Something I thought of in the past, that’s all.
Lorena TheAdversary: I would line up for that! You’re definitely a walking library on serial killers and mass murderers and obviously very creative. I would definitely love to see something like that if you ever do it. I’d be first in line.
Corporate Death: My girlfriend is the same way. She started listening to this stuff when she was 17 so she’s an expert on serial killers. She knows more than I do. Me and her just bounce ideas off each other. She says “I can’t believe I’m actually in a relationship with you” since she was listening to our stuff years ago. I said, “well, it happens”. She’s an expert on killers and it’s nice to have someone like that in my life, she gives me ideas and helps me out and stuff.
Lorena TheAdversary: I agree, that’s a lot of support there. You’re already very creative on your own but having that added help just pushes you to another level. I’m definitely looking forward to pt. 2 of Grim Scary Tales. I already have a few favorites on the new one, The Black Knight being one of them. We look forward to hearing more from Macabre and hopefully seeing you somewhere in Texas in the near future.
Corporate Death: Thank you very much, goodnight.
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